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Comments (56) | Posted: May 29, 2008
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I thought you looked wonderful, Peter. But then, I'm partial... :)
Theres a really ugly word that resembles the word ROPE, but with an A instead of an O. That is what were are talking about hear, right? A ROPE-O+A fantasy shoot? We all know the models will be ok with it, and we all know they will be prepared for it. IS there anything to consider besides that?
Im very much into bondage and I mostly like the fantasy scenerios and this seems like a dream come true, but wont you feel a bit strange, maybe sleazy, creating content like this? The question becomnes, are some fantasies left better off only in our own heads?
Here's a philosophical question that may freak people out, but that is not my intention.
Would it be ethically OK to create a site that depicts children having sex with grown mean if all of the content were animated and no actual children were involved in the shoots at all? IS there any harm in producing this type of content even if no one gets hurt or no illegal acts take place? I think no. Even though I am very liberal in my views, it seems that some things just shouldnt be produced for enjoyment.
If Kink can spin this nightime fantasy site into a sex positive experience I would be very impressed by the stupidity of the people who bought into that line of thinking.
I'm not saying that I think you all shouldnt do it, but you may have to drop your stance about sex positive and healthy sexual environments. I never really cared about that stance and always considered it to be lip service anyway.
We all know the models are OK to shoot what KInk shoots. That doesnt mean it is sex positive, that just means it's OK for fucked up people to celebrate their fucked up nature! And let's face it, bondaqe freak or not, we are all a little fucked up! PEACE
Thanks for the comment Swarmy, I think this is important.
At the end of this test shoot, I ask the dummy "did you have a good time?", at which point my co-directors says "who cares?". I then correct him by saying "of course we do".
This, to me, is the very definition of sex-positive play and porn. The play is not only for the top/man, but equally for all parties involved.
The fantasy that this material touches on is very common indeed, and many couples play them out (e.g. husband invites friends over to surprise his wife - at her request). I think it is sexy and healthy to play out these fantasies in a safe and negotiated way.
Admittedly, Luke and I may have gotten a little carried away with this dummy, but the notion that any final material comes across as being for the enjoyment of the model as well as the tops is very important to me.
Cheers
Peter
PS I donât meant to say that my co-director said anything I wasnât happy with. He was still in scene mode and it wasnât clear that the scene had ended.
PPS I now realize that we already shoot scenes similar to this on thetrainingofo.com. Itâs unclear whether this concept will become an independent site.
The training of O shoots seem to differ because the model is playing a slave role where we all know that at any moment, anything could happen to her and she is resigned to and OK with that reality.
The shoots for the nighttime fantasy seem to imply a fantasy storyline where the model plays the role of an unsuspecting woman asleep in her bed and it has not been declared within the realm of that fantasy that she is ok with what is about to happen to her, although we all know it is a production and she does know that it may, or could happen and she is Ok with it. You seem to be implying that the model will be playing the part of a woman who is taken advantage of. If the men run into her room and she begs to be tied up and fucked then you should just scrap the idea! We are talking about a fantasy scenerio where the model is taken against her will. Even if she enjoys it in reality, the fantasy implies this coersion.
We are talking about the same activities as TTOO with different motives and a different scenerio. But those motives seem to be important.
My point was, even if everyone is into the scene, is it sex positive to portray a woman being taken against her will? Yes, that is probably the basis of the majority of BDSM fantasies. Are those fantasies healthy? I have them all the time and Im not quite sure about the answer to that question :)~
Just because someone is into something doesnt make it healthy. Just because someone enjoys something doesnt make it healthy. We could start a site about doing Cocaine and say that its healthy because these people like it but that doesnt make it healthy. Oh, it's a slippery slope indeed. And please dont make the argument that a fetish is so far different from an addiction.
I would love to see scenes like this and the only place to find them now is from companys in Holland and such. The production values stink! Kink would once again be stepping into ambiguous legal territory as they did back in 2000 when you started putting dildos in pussies and making women cum while bound. It seemed a legal taboo, but you all did it and then everyone started doing it. I hope you open the door to this type of material.
I know too many people that are into bondage, both men and women, and to describe them as healthy people is a joke! Im just being honest. Then again, as I mentioned before, mental health is not a term to be used lightly with people in general. As with light butter compared to regular butter, the health difference is only relative.
Pave the way Peter! Say whatever you need to say about healthy and positive. I dont really think the majority of us care.
Peter, I think you've gone mad. I'm sorry, but I couldn't get past the comical aspects of this scene to make a good assessment of this approach (I shall try harder), but admire your determination in the face of a challenge and your steadfast resolve to complete this shoot. I do agree that you might be getting too close to some sort of taboo, but if you can break through, all the better! Good luck!
Dear Smarmy,
It is the intention that the model always be portrayed as excited by the concept initially, and that it be shown that she she enjoyed the experience after the fact. For instance, in this footage, the model says "yay! This is my fantasy!", as she agrees to the shoot in the talent office.
I absolutely agree with you that there are many unhealthy acts that are not ethical to show. It think it goes without saying that anything involving minors or hard drugs such as cocaine falls into this category.
Where we disagree is about whether being taken against your will is a healthy fantasy. I believe it is, and that it is sex positive to depict such a scene if it is the fantasy of both parties and the scene is shown to be properly negotiated. You are free to disagree.
Cheers
Peter
PS You also say "To describe people into bondage as healthy is a joke". I respect your opinion, but I also disagree with you about this.
I've been srguing about this matter on different kink forums many times. I do not see a problem (moral or otherwise) with any sexual activity between consenting adults, under the condition that no one is permanently harmed or damaged. Not all of them are my cup of tea, but I find it Ok that they are produced, distributed and watched by those whose fetishes it are. I find any comparison with child porn or drugs not valuable because they don't meet the adult criteria. On the oyher hand no one has a problem with a shoot with models all over 18 but looking as schoolgirls. We see it all in the time on Kink, in the cinema, on tv.
Besides BDSM is roleplay. Is it ok to murder somebody? No. Do we have a problem making a film about that. Of course not. Why should be ok to watch Law and Order Special Victims Unit, where they show an ongoing rape, talk about, analyze it. Why would it then not be ok to shoot a rape scene at Kink. For me it doesn't make it any different.
There is no slippery slope as long as you stick the criteria, placed above. So the only kink I would see a problem with (on top of the fact that I do not find it arousing) is sex with animals. The only reason being that the animal cannot consent. For the rest do I want to see all these fetishes (fisting, scatting, vomit, etc)? But if others day, they have my blessing.
Always remember that BDSM and Kink is all about roleplay. Should Kink be advancing on fetishes if their members ask for it. Yes, let's be thriving for new goald and broading the horizon.
Swarmy you are having fantasy thoughts - of which you think many others have them - and believe they might be unhealthy. Now that I feel is an unhealthy attitude.
There is a beutifull German song: "Die Gedanken sind frei". This should translate as: "Any person is free to have any thoughts he wants to." Now, that I feel a healthy attitude.
I do not want to cross anyone's opinion. You are entitled to it. I am merely stating mine.
"I think you've gone mad....I couldn't get past the comical aspects of this scene to make a good assessment of this approach but admire your determination in the face of a challenge and your steadfast resolve to complete this shoot." AGREED. It was hilarious and though I WAS trying to critique it seriously it was VERY difficult. This has potential but... not a lot. In my opinion. The moral basis that everyone seems to be controversial I don't think will be a problem really, I know you have to look at all aspects of it Peter but Like on Training of O (which I adore and really don't think you could do justice to) It is pretty clear that it is consensual. I really am trying to be optimistic but I think this has the possibility of appealing to a lot of people but MOST (not all) of those people (including me) enjoy the "abduction/rape" fantasy and the reassuring that has to be done to make it legal and seem very consensual I think will take away from it a lot. I understand you have to do this and that is the problem, In my opinion, do some sporadic shoots and just put them on kink on demand and see... REAL shoots. If there is a demand go for it. I have seen a lot of test abductions shoots lately and honestly, this one (excluding the fake model and goofy atmosphere) does not even come close to living up to the other test shoots and scenes that wired pussy etc has tried. Again... just my opinion but I didn't care for it... at all. Sorry.
Nice skivvies tho Peter... :P
This is so disturbing that I could only watch the first few minutes. I think you should always use blow up dolls and the doms have their dicks hanging out and have orgasms. You know, transcend real people.
All this boring ethical discussion. When we all know the film is fiction, what can be the problem? Most fantasies that people in bdsm have are about non consensual situations, r-pe, captivity, a-duction, slavery. In mainstream movies lots of nasty things happen, and we know it is fiction.
I think this 'reality' style filming, a bit 'Blair Witch' like, has a great potential. But guys: if you want to whip her butt, dont hogtie her! And if you want to whip her nipples, dont have clamps on them!
Bondage freaks always do these mistakes. Like having crotch ropes that get in the way of the whip, etc etc. Think a bit practical for whippings! (And do beat the butts, dont beat the feet, that is not sexy..)
I'll leave the ethical considerations to you at Kink.com, as you usually handle these well.
My main concern is the increasing breaking down of specific kinks into specific websites. If rape.com were to be, would that mean that TTOO and others would "not be encouraged" to do this kind of scenes? Just like they will "not be encouraged" to do piss scenes, as discussed in a recent thread?
I want diversity and an element of surprice when I watch your stuff. I don't want 50 different websites, each having narrowly defined "mission statements": One site for rape fantasies, one site for nipple clamps, one site for the missionary position etc.
If you continue down this road, we'll soon have redheadgirlsgettingtickledwhilewearingabuttplug.com, and no other sites will be "encouraged" to use buttplugs, tickling or redhead models.
Pedestrian is right... if a little harsh :)
It does seem that this is the direction this is headed.
Variety is what we subscribers like on the other sites. Though one shoot may not appeal to us as much as another we keep subscribing don't we? Variety is the spice of life and though I WOULD like shoots like this on OTHER sites I would not personally subscribe to a site soley about this. It would get old fast.
I'm just wondering...Would the debate be this heated if the "victim" were male and the "attackers" either female or male. I think not. This is not real, it is a performance. Not my fantasy, but really no different than men being dominated on MIP.
The first thing that came to mind was: "Well, if his lawyers and credit card processors say it's okay . . ."
For practical reasons, I'm just not sure if the idea can sustain itself for a site, week after week after week. Maybe you can add it in a site that caters to women's submission fantasies in general? Would your affiliates want to promote a site like that? That could be an interesting niche.
However, I do endorse any new test shoots with Peter and life-sized dolls ;-)
I Love The Idea, I Wish I Could be That Model, Because. It Is always Been My Fantasies Of Getting GangBand By a Group Of Men and Been Helpless, To Whatever They Will Like To Do To Me, Elsita Garces
to answer Smarmies question
what you described would depicts non adults, this concept involves the consensual play of adults. two completely different senarios. peter kept asking if she was alright showing it was consensual and enjoyable for all parties.
loved the shoot, love the concept, want to see peter in the next test shoot it adds to the reality factor. would like to see this as a full site.
and as for ttoo sometimes doing similar scenarios i dont think its a problem. several sites use electricity.
Despite the ethical crap being said above I loved the idea. Rape fantasies are definitely something that lots of people have, I mean I'm scheduling with my play partner to have this almost exact sort of situation within the next week! Well, not exact because it's only him, but close enough. :p I say go for it, but I actually think it could sustain itself as a website since it's kind of hard to tie it in with a shoot like hogtied or - *gets a wicked idea for waking the girl up in the middle of the night with a big tub of cold water*. Alright, my point lost it's validity, it could work as something in other sites, but still I like the idea as it's own website.
Hope to see more!
~Ri
You should have used live model. Its hard to take this shoot serious with a pasty scare crow as a handcufed victim. Madison Young would have made a great test shoot victim.
In response to MrBlue: My point about the animated child porn and the rape fantasy porn is that they are both depicting acts which are illegal. In neither case does a child or a model get hurt or abused. In one case, the child is drawn, in the other case, we all know the model consents.
We all know they make movies depicting such things and that only touches the surface of the hypocracy from the law in regards to pornography.
Here is a very nice point to make. We should all hear from the BDSM artist ROBERTS. He only draws rape fantasies and the billing companies wont allow for that. Maybe he should draw an interview with the animated model and tell her to say that she is ok being drawn into a BDSM cartoon. HA
Hi Peter,
I think the test shoot was awesome and i think no models will get hurt. You should let Princess Donna be the webmaster. She so fucking good and I think she will direct the site with her best ability. Princess Donna could add the electricity element into the shoot which will bring it to a whole new level. I think others will agree with this idea too.
God! 25 comments - and there all over the place. Put it on the back burner, Peter, and concentrate on the epiphany of the Budapest connection. Its time has not yet come. 1
In respones to Smarmy. The fact that actual rape is illegal, doesn't make it unethical to shoot it in a fanatasy. As for animated child porn, there is a different story. The people that are sexually aroused by child porn - be it animated or not - are the ones that have fantasies of carrying out these acts themselves. If they are stimulated enough with these films they will eventually. There are numerous international studies about this phenomena.
Now as for the billing companies you should understand their hypocracy. I have seen numerous European websites - especially German ones - that show rape, teen-rape and awfully hard abuse (with lots of blood and sustaining scarfs) that you can join using international credit cards. These are the same companies that state in the US that they will not allow it.
So Peter, let's go for it. Do not launch it as a new site yet, but incorporate it in roleplay shoots on WP, TTOO, WA or SAS. These four sites have already shoots with roleplay that come close to this subject. You could always turn it into a seperate site later.
Hi Peter, The idea that you have of breaking into a woman's bedroom and overpowering her into submission with regards to tying her up and forcing her into sexual acts is a fantasy I have had for a very long time and have been looking for a website that would cater to that fantasy. You have now found it. As long as there are no problems with the Legal Department, (with regards to the new Obscene Legal Act which is coming into force in the UK in Jan 2009) I would definitely subscribe to it. Good luck with the idea.
David Edwards (Manchester UK)
I love some of these guys. "Don't worry about that ethical crap!" Yeah, I think they have a point. Fuck ethics -- life is so much simpler without them. And think of the fun you could have. You could break into a woman's room, tie her up, gang-rape her, and when she uses the safe word you could say, "Did you really believe all that bullshit about a safe word? What a stupid bitch!" And then you could shoot her in the head and bury her on camera. Think of the subscribers you'd get!
Yeah, ethics and scruples really suck, don't they?
Humevesne: Now you are talking! If the model agreed to such a scene they could use a fake gun and easily make fun of the safe words on camera (as long as the real safe word was respectd) they could write it into the scene. If it is all a fantasy and everyone agrees, why does it matter what they shoot? It seems that is is healthy to portray just about anything as long as everyone involved is OK with it. You could fantasy force the model to eat shit, get raped by homeless people, you could even cut her open and drink her blood! I know more than a few subs who would be OK with that and enjoy the hell out of it!
I get your sarcasm, but do you see your hipocracy? You seem confused to me. No one said to fuck ethics. What I said was to fuck calling it healthy. Its just a word and as much as you call it healthy, youll find other to call it unhealthy. Nobody has suggested shooting anything that the model doesnt agree with, and if you can shoot rape scene that the model agrees with, why couldnt you shoot a sex fantasy where the model acts as if she wants to the scene to stop, and the scene goes on against her will? Why couldnt they pretend to shoot her in the head and bury her? Are we finally crossing the line of unhealthy activities? Of course, the model wouldnt actually die just like in all those movies where people get shot. SO, whats the problem if everyone involved is OK with it?
Peter,I posted a comment on the Behindkink Forum... LOVED your initial posting here ;)
Smarmy,I have to ask, if you think those interested in or engaging in bdsm are neither healthy nor sane...what are you doing here...with such a closed mind? If it's only to pass judgment on others...shame on you and I would have to take offense at that presumption. Being in touch with one's sexuality IS healthy(ok to be perfectly clear,I'll add as long as it's consensual and no children or animals are involved)...sounds like you need to do some introspection.
Nevermind the ethics of portraying borderline nonconsensual acts. I love the dummy. I think a site dedicated to Peter dominating sex dolls is the way to go. :)
I love BDSM and I love the Kink sites and Im probably being more introspective an d honest than most. Saying something is healthy is just as judgemental than saying it is unhealthy. I guess it pleases you to hear that this is healthy and unpopular to say that it may not be. But to decide either way is to pass judgement.
It's hard to believe the sqaure factor here! Im not ahshamed that I love bondage and I dont have to try to make myself feel better by labeling it as healthy. It is what it is. I guess we allready decided that it was an opinion.
It is just my experience with folks who are into bondage and the lifestyle that they have emotional issues that become very apparent once you get to know them. You dont have to agree, but can I have my opinion based on my realm of experience? Please? Or are you a bunch of healthy and judgemental fascists?
I dont put anyone down for being into bondage. To the contrary, I believe bondage is a fantasy where we try to work out our emotional issues. It's a very primal activity for me and I like to view primal scenes.
You all can hold hands and sing songs about how torturing someone is healthy. As I said, just because someone likes something doesnt make it healthy. I would love to hear from anyone, any arguments about how BDSM is a healthy emotional or physical activity that dont just rest on "They really like it" as their argument. Cause "They really like it" does not make it healthy! The same reasoning should work for eating chocolate, drinking beer, gambling, prostitution and even being a porn star! But it deosnt.
You all seem to have guilty conscienses! I do not. The bottom like is we have a right to enjoy whatever fantasies we choose to enjoy. We will find out if Kink has the right to produce any fantasies and make them public or not. But you all seem naive to think that the government and the banks will be ok to allow a rape site in America. I HOPE THEY DO ALLOW IT!
I think this is a great idea. But i do agree with some of the comments. I mean we get it it's consensual and that's crucial but we dont have to be reminded of that every 5 sec. Rape fantasies are great they are fiction. Try to be a bit more edgier... ;)
Hi peter, like the content idea, Obviously it's a fantasy of many people, one I will probably be enacting tonight with my wife's compliance and enjoyment, and the sort of thing properly topped and tailed to show the consensual context that should be given a site of it's own. I am really excited by all the possible scenarios. As for cinema verite, yes and no, some of the pitch black bits could be cut out for pacing (though some can be left in for effect) overall brilliant Idea, can't wait!
Peter S
Peter, you're awesome!
Love the idea. This works because so many women have this fantasy and I am sure they would love to play it out. I also want to say that I love your care and concern for sexual agency and consensual BDSM.
I cannot wait to see if this shoot comes to fruition.
Thanks for the inside scoop, Peter.
I'm frustrated by some of the comments here, pertaining to rape and consent. First and foremost, it's only rape porn if the girl resists (as play) during the scene. In my opinion there wouldn't be anything wrong with that, especially if sufficient emphasis is given to the female perspective, but fear and reluctance play don't appear to be part of this project's mission statement, at all.
Some of you are just tossing the 'R' word around with no more nuance than those who consider BDSM itself a rape-fantasy.
Secondly, there's a huge distinction between forced sex and spontaneous or 'surprise' sex. Think of it as a surprise party, if that helps you.
Hmm... kicking off a sleep scene with party blowers...
First, I should say that this is one of the best set of comments about a serious topic that I have seen on the BehindKink comments. It seems a good thing for all to come to terms with what BDSM productions are all about.
Now to Carl's comments :)
How do you give emphasis to the female perspective? Through the interview and afterview portion?
How do you have an "R" word scene without reluctance play? As I said, if the model appears to be ok with the intrusion, you might as well scrap the project! You kinda need to accept the fact that the "R" word fantasy is excatly what we are talking about here. IF the guys barge into the room and the model wakes up and says "hey guys, good to see you, please tie me up and fuck me" that wouldnt be an "R" word scene. If she acts willing would it even be hot to watch? silly question.
A sexual surprise party isnt necesarily a forced sex scene, but a sexual surprise party with bondage certainly seems to be. Im sorry Carl, some of us dont need to sugar coat our fantasies! lol
Hey Peter,
I honestly like the concept. I again as stated above am not sure about the sustainability of this site as an individual concept, but I would love for something like this on MIP. It's always been a fantasy of mine.
Run with what you feel. Do what you see best for Kink.com and let see what they say 10 years from now. Just like what they said 10 years ago when you started it all.
Don't mess with a brilliant mind people. He thinks these things through and if there were ethical issues, do you think the credit card processors would allow it...i dont think so.
Only a few years ago Kink had to remove a scene with Justine Joli because the credit card processors would not allow for it. It was a simple kidnapping scene with no sex. Maybe things have gotten better with the credit card companies? I'm sure that Peter makes these test shoots as much for Humboldt Bank (the Kink.com Bank) as for us members.
Yoda, do you make comments to kiss ass? That won't resolve anything :)
Gustav,
No I don't make these comments to kiss ass. Actually I speak my mind. If you read some of the comments on the pissing/mikes bitches, behind kink video from a few shoots ago i completely disagree with where that is going.
I do think that Peter has a great mind for this and there is a reason these sites have been so successful. Its good leadership and good directors!
Just to give you a female prospective...
If the model is up for it, an an experienced slave - I've would say go for it. Just make sure u talk it through with her afterwards, and not meaning right after - but give her a day and then talk to her about it. That way u make sure, u don't send her home "scared"
As for making it lool real - I'm sure the models will make that happend.
Wow, so many different thoughts on the subject. As a social worker in the Los Angeles area I would be worried about those that tried what you are doing for the kicks of it. I remember about 1974 or 76 somewhere back there, they said dungeons and dragons was harmless, then a group of collage students went into a cave to play out a game and one of the players really killed the others. My only question would be could this happen because of the site? I have subscribed to almost all your sites at one time or another and would have to wait and see how the final product came out before making a decision just be careful as you might dig something out of a bad place in someones mind is all.
I would like to see this scenario on MIP. I also think there should be a Training of O for men. I love kink.com, but as a Domme it's frustrating at times because there isn't a lot out there for me. I know primarly men purchase porn, but I think women are doing it more, and the more porn that is created for us, the more we'll purchase.
Saying that offering rape flicks for enjoyment is OK because the victim says, "Yay! This is my fantasy!" promotes the twisted idea that all women secretly want to be raped. IMO, this actually promotes rape.
This is discouraging. Actually so was Mark Davis making his sub call him "Daddy" recently. Creepy. I don't like where these sites are heading. Kink used to be a place which attracted women. Not so much anymore.
Hi Emma,
I donât personally agree with your initial statement or your conclusion. The fact of the matter is that rape-fantasies are very common indeed. One book estimates that 24% of men and 36% of women have had a rape fantasy, and 10% of women report this to be their favorite type of fantasy (please see the Wikipedia article on ârape fantasyâ for the reference).
If you believe that the distribution of rape fantasy video promotes the idea that all women secretly want to be raped, do you also believe that the distribution of research showing just how common rape fantasies are produces a similar effect? IMHO, the latter seems like a more compelling argument than the former.
I think the point here is the distinction between rape and rape fantasy. The two things do not bare a comparison. Do these 36% of women secretly desire to be actually raped? HELL NO!! They secretly desire to act out a negotiated rape fantasy as depicted in this video. Rape fantasy can be incredible sex. People love it, and more couples should try it! I donât think I need to describe how awful and unforgivable actual rape is. The point I am trying to make is that you cannot compare one to the other.
IMHO, it is healthy to act out these extremely common fantasies in a safe, sane and consensual way. Indeed, I think that the availability of such material reassures those people who have the fantasy that they just might be normal. Additionally, if presented in a format with negotiation and aftercare, it also begins to educate people about how to play out their fantasy safely, with consent.
Lastly, I might add that if you look at the correlation between incidents of rape and availability of extreme pornography (including rape pornography) across various communities and time, you do not see a positive correlation. I.e. evidence does not support the statement that rape pornography causes rape. Indeed, some research suggests that the plunge in rape incidents in the US since the 1970âs may be partly because of the availability of pornography on the internet (See the paper Porn Up, Rape Down, by Anthony DâAmato, Northwestern University School of Law).
Cheers
Peter
PS as for Mark Davis, yes, heâs a creepy fucker (just kidding Mark!)
Joe,
We didnt use the creepy doll because she ways about 250 pounds! When I took her from the office to my home for a shag, I nearly broke my back!
Cheers
peter
Of course women understand the difference between rape fantasies and the reality of rape, since so many of us have been raped.
My concern is with the *men* watching the videos who don't understand this difference. They could easily see this as just more
ammo in their argument that, "this is what you wanted".
Regarding research on the occurance of the rape fantasy - the guys I'm talking about aren't reading research.
The research I'd be more interested in is WHY are so many people interested in seeing women raped? Anyone who has been
through the experience knows the physical pain involved - tearing of the vaginal opening, perineum, vaginal walls, damage
to rectum, cervix, bladder, etc. There are no words to describe the emotional pain. Some women end up is psychiatric hospitals
afterward. Some hide for years. Some commit suicide.
Clearly people don't know enough about the reality of rape. I wonder how that message can be heard?
The rape fantasies to be dipicted are not about RAPE. These fantasies are showing some idea of what our society believes about
rape. That's the f'd up part of this. Our society believes rape is sexy. It's not. There is a clear misunderstanding
which Kink could be helping to clarify. Instead, they are adding to the misinformation.
So create your site, but perhaps you could consider doing something about this misconception as part of your mission?
And P.S. Mark Davis isn't the LEAST bit creepy. The "call me daddy" character he played was creepy.
Hi Emmy,
Thanks for your notes.
I don't actually believe what you say is true, i.e. I don't believe society finds actual rape sexy. I think that if we were to post a video of an actual rape scene, complete with the violence and actual physical damage you have described, I don't think it would be popular. Similarly, scenes of actual murder and death are legally available on some remote websites, but they get virtually no viewers in comparison to staged depictions of violence in mainstream media.
However, I do believe people find depictions of rape fantasy sexy. This is because such a large proportion of people have that fantasy in some form. The people watching it know its fantasy and that thereâs no rape actually happening. However, I do realize that however carefully this fantasy material is presented, it will always push buttons for some people and I want to thank you very much for sharing some of your thoughts and concerns.
Cheers
Peter
PS a full test shoot was actually done for this site:
http://www.kinkondemand.com/kod/shoot.jsp?shootId=5600
and here is a free trailer:
http://ads.kinkondemand.com/imagedb/5600/v/h/320/hires/5600_7.wmv
ok this is much better i take back my comment peter has not gone insane after all loved her smile at the end.
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Peter, you do the UK proud. Though I don't blame you for not living here.
I think it's a terrific, brave and very hot concept. Count me in for a subscription.
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I went straight down to the gym after watching this, and I bought myself a subscription for a tanning salon.