I would be disappointed if the misogynistic title "Mike's Bitches" were used for a Kink site. It seems to undermine the sex-positive, consensual-play spirit that makes Kink stand out in its industry. The content looks inoffensive enough, but the title rubs me the wrong way.

I love that the content is available. And, as a Kink.com fan, I sincerely hope you sell those shoots and make a lot of money.

But I will not be buying them at that price. Just an FYI. I have no problem whatsoever with the price point, other than to say I will not be participating. I would recommend that you see how much money it brings in, see if it makes sense, and adjust if it does not. And, yeah, I know that's the most obvious recommendation ever.

I think the misogyny of the Mike's Bitches goes way beyond the title and into the fundamental premise. Peter must have taken leave of his senses to allow a test shoot along these lines to see the light of day. The premise portrays women as whores who when showed enough "green" can be had and discarded. I say forget this one.

Sorry guys,nothing for my taste here with piss,golden shower or whatever,does absolutly nothing me,but to each to his own.As for Mike's bitches,for some reason I just don't like the name Mike,doesn't ring too well to my ears,we already have a site on the net called "Mike's apartment",then we have Chanta's bitches.So really without knowing exactly what this site is all about,but I imagine being a mix cocktail of Sex and BDSM,I would drop the first name and call it simply "BITCHES IN NEED"

I have to agree with Long time fan. Mike's Bitches looks like a throwback to the worst kind of mainstream-porn, where BDSM-elements are not portrayed as consensual role-play but as what naturally happens between men and women, where the latter, dumb bitches that they are, will do anything for money or because it is in their nature to enjoy being abused... The absence of this kind of narrative is what makes me like Kink.com - are you sure that going into this type of mainstream will be so economically rewarding to be worth losing your credibility?
(PS: I would like to see how the introductory, establishing-consent interview on this sort of shoot works: "hey, would you enjoy playing a helpless dumb porn-starlet who will do anything for money?" - "yes, i love that sort of play, it really turns me on"...???)

Actually, it doesn't taste nearly as bad as it smells ;-) Still, I doubt that a new site dedicated to piss play is a good idea. It's great that Kink.com is moving in all kinds of directions, but all these different sites with still more narrowly defined missionary statements piss me of, pun intended. Instead, piss play would provide a nice variation on some of the sites.

And yes, I'm aware that the new 'on demand' concept is available for those of us who like some variation. But I have to agree with the posters above who say that it is simply too expensive at the moment.

One question please:

If pissing.com is launched, would peepee be quarantined to that domain? Would sites like SAS, WP, and WA be discouraged from incorporating it?

The only interesting concept for me is the pissing site (for those who like it). Like Paula and sexyerin I would prefer a lesbian pissing site without guys, but with Isis Love as actress, strap-on-fucking and pissing around with other girls. I don't understand why Isis with her wonderful body, her gorgeous ass and especially with her beautiful sexy feet should be invisible behind the camera! Isis as lesbian piss goddess, squirming around on the floor totally nude, receiving hot golden showers and hard strap-on-fucks from the girls and women she lured into her lair would be hot. Just my phantasy.

A site where slutty women do as they are told for green? What do you think every website is not only based on, but is the very reality of what you are watching, even Kinks? Do you think all these models would come up and play with Kink for free? LOL, It is very hard to imagine your perspective on this. I think Mike's Bitches is a great theme for a site and Kink is obviously copying Chanta's title because she has copied so much of what they have done and it's all just a little game. I think it is stupid. Kink should find another name which doesn't participate in these stupid competitive games and launch the site. I think it will be very popular.

I'm sure no one cares, but in my above comment (in which I asked whether or not a full-fledged pissing site would discourage showers on the established sex sites) I think the word 'quarantined' gives the wrong impression.

This sultry viewer is very much in favor of peepee play, and would be fairly disappointed if pissing.com meant that models who share this fetish (e.g. Donna, Isis, Amber, Annette, Holmes(?) lol) weren't free to spice up their shoots with this new sexual variable due to site demographics/boundaries.

Kink can launch websites that have a touch of the reality fantasy (seems an oxymoron, but that is what it is) and still remain true to thier values and mission. Many of the shoots from all the sites have elements of fantasy storylines. Is it ethical to have a model posing as a kidnapped security gaurd or a woman in for her first gyno exam that gets taken advantage of? Themes like this are all over many of the sites. I dont see how girls being talked or bribed into bondage for a blow job is any different. I love the idea and think it is fucking hot! The values and mission have to do with Kink operates and treats the models and the fetish itself.

I feel that this new site does entirely stick to the Kink values and mission. BDSM is about fantasies to a huge portion of it's fans. That doesnt mean the shoots are faked and it doesnt mean that the models are being mistreated or misrepresented.

Many of you are judging this MikesBitches scenerio. Mnay people could judge all of Kink.com's sites. Do you see what these models go through? LOL. Much of bondage is about humiliation! What do you think being tied up with your legs spread and being forced to cum is all about? The model does enjoy it, yes, but is the act itself something that could be judged as humiliating or slutty? For the love of gawd people, dont you think models could enjoy the MikesBitches scenerio as well? It isnt any different than any other theme. I cannot see at all where you are drawing these lines. Get off your judgement benches!

As long as Kink continues to do thier best to make sure the models are enjoying the scenes, and Im sure they will, you probably dont need to worry about what they are portraying at all. Just sit back and enjoy what they create for you. And if you think the site you support or think is ethical, be very careful! You could easily find yourself on the other side of this argument with a close minded idiot as well... :)

The URL MikesBitches does suck though. Do you need to antagonize Chanta more? She's allready got herself nailed to a cross! LOL

I don't think that everyone has or ever will have the same views about a site. To each their own. The point of the comments is to figure out where we are all coming from and to make our voices heard as to what we like and what we don't.

And my question in my previous comment was not meant to state or infer that these sites didn't meet the mission or values of Kink.com, I just personally wondered where they fit. And thanks to Peter for posting and making that clear. Sometimes all it takes is a few words to open ones' eyes to what the concept was intended to be.

Remember a mind is like a parachute, best when open.

I am alway open to new ideas and opinions, its what challanges us to grow and learn. And in my opinion makes me better by thinking "outside" the box.

no matter what. All of this is for those that enjoy it. Who is to say what a person enjoys is wrong or right as long as nobody else is forced to do anything. It takes very little nudity for nudity to become boring like watching sex acts becomes boring after seeing a few so sex is not really a spectators sport. The song title," To Each His Own," just about covers the whole deal.

Thank you Flower, Isis and man !
Flower is so gorgeous, so obviously enthusiast to receive a lot of piss and more on her so sensuous body and face and mouth ! she will need more people around her, men and women, the next time !
I love you laughing Flower !!!
Other thing, I think you (webmasters of any kink websites could incorporate a pee part sometimes in shootings, for example :
1 - the sub pee as a dog
2 - the dom pee on sub body
3- the dom pee on ground and/or in bucket and make sub play with pee (smell it, put it on body, sprawl in it ...) or drink it...
4 - the dom pee on face and mouth sub in any website like sexandsubmission, hogtied, wiredpussy, the TraingofO, meninpain, whippedass ...
if dom and sub model tolerates theses of course !
take care

frenchgus

Kink.com takes forever when it comes to revolutionary porn ideals, they first considered doing hardcore all-girl lesbian piss videos a long time ago back in January 2008, and now 6 months later...they still havent filmed one lesbian watersports movie...shame shame shame :(

Why does it have to take these idiots so long to finally take this subject seriously?? We want to see nasty hardcore lesbian urine squirting , girls drinking other girls piss, and add lots of good strong lesbian strap-on dildo fucking and pussy eating .....NO MEN, NO ROUGH LESBIAN FOREPLAY, just get to the point! Kink.com should take a good look at European porn studios like MFX, Glimpse and Hightide, they have been doing lesbian pee pee porn for a long time now....when will the Americans ever catch up?? :)

How about doing more then just pissing, but doing enemas too?